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leece
Posted on: September 16th, 2005, 9:24pm Quote Report to Moderator
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This is a film for people who like the book. The real Dahl, dark, edgy and slightly uncomfortable book.  Even the bits that Burton has thrown are extremely good additions.

Mr Depp makes an excellent Willy Wonka, and the flashes on his face of stifling inner demons are acting genius. The actor who plays Charlie is also very endearing. You can't help think, gee, what a good kid.

I really enjoyed the book as a kid, and I was very dissappointed in the first film attempt. This is much, much better. And if you ever wanted to see an extended Devo clip, well, you're in luck!

There are songs in the book by the Oompa Loompas, and there are songs in the movie. And they're both cool, and if they aren't verbatim, then they're pretty close in meaning.

Watch out for the highly amusing 2001 reference, Nightmare Before Christmas reference and the really cool Edward Scissorhands reference.

I don't think this is a good choice for children who aren't comfortable with the book (the book's not all that much of a happy fluffy read, and the sequel is even more disturbing, so it will be interesting if Mr Burton does the sequel, and also terrifying. The Vermicious Knids are the scariest monster I know.)

This is a disturbing film, with its dark Dahl elements, the intense Mr Wonka with his own inner darkness and flashbacks, and Burton's just about trademark fetish of creaking leather and rubber, factories and nasty metal things.

Seen at Gold Class, at the Innaloo megaplex and a thoooooroughhhhhhly enjoyable view.

But...not for the average kid.

9 out of 10 and a good solid dinner with dark chocolate and bleu cheese on a Ferris wheel  with an eccentric friend you've been missing.

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Posted on: September 17th, 2005, 7:30am Quote Report to Moderator
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Snow.  Don't forget Mr Burton's fetish for snow as well.

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Posted on: September 17th, 2005, 4:37pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I went and saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory today.

My first impression was that some of the children were more than slightly off.
Not real enough perhaps. So that you couldn't happily stereotype them for each of the vices they represented because they were too caricatured.
(The grumpy Grampa's commentary as each of them found (or received) the golden ticket was quite amusing.)
But basically the first two children knocked out when they entered the factory seemed almost plastic and very two dimensional, especially Augustus Gloop. This could be an intended effect except the other three children seemed more real (and more irritating and pitiable because of it).

But that said Depp is amazing good as the slightly dark (and quite eccentric) Willy Wonka. His interactions with the children, their parents, and the inner demons stirred up by them were amazing acted and frequently highly amusing.

The effect of having one person act as all the Oompa Loompas (duplicated through computer trickery) was amusing in parts, and just plain strange in others. I admit I found myself looking for creation artefacts rather than enjoying the show in scenes featuring scores of Oompa Loompas, all of them with the same face.

The only thing I miss from the original movie is that the Oompa Loompa songs were more catchy and sing-alongable (and don't deny that you've never sung along while watching that movie! :).

8.5 out of 10. Because it is a little too dark and a little too strange in places to comfortably enjoy.

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Posted on: September 18th, 2005, 8:06am Quote Report to Moderator
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My current favourites for Roy Deep's roles are the Oompa Loompa chief and the psychiatrist. The narrator's pretty good too. Roy Deep is way cool.  If you look at his entry on the IMDB you'll see what an amazing amount of work he did for all the roles.

4 out of the 5 songs were from the original book, which, while probably not as catchy as

Oompa Loompa Doompity Doo
I've got another problem for you.
What do you do if your kid is a brat
As spoiled and as vicious as a Siamese Cat?

Is quite a nice touch, especially the garbage chute song.
It's a pity that the words weren't clearer for the songs, you had to have a fair idea of them beforehand.
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Posted on: September 18th, 2005, 9:34am Quote Report to Moderator
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I liked it better than the original but it is weaker than the original film in one key area: Charlie's test is omitted (the bit with being tempted to smuggle out a gobstopper).

As a result Charlie wins more by default than by doing the right thing himself...

If you cannot see the causal relationship between "I have chocolate" and "Life is Good", you simply aren't trying hard enough.
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I wouldn't call it weaker. If you remember in the first film Willy Wonka hits them with some legalistic nonsense about having touched the ceiling fan, as a result of Granpa and Charlie having been a bit naughty, and because of this clause is going to send them home without anything.

I was always very dissappointed around that bit (not with the returning the gobstopper bit, that was ok), because in the book, even though the other 'awful' children had also disobeyed the rules and touched things, they still got to go home with the truckfuls of Wonka chocolate, which seemed fair enough, it was keeping the agreement. I thought it was unnecessary legalism, and it stole away some simple charm.
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